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RE: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum-more CT

 

 


rajesh84 at asianetindia
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Jul 25, 2006, 3:13 AM

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RE: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum-more CT Can't Post

 
some more CT pictures,

Thanks very much

rajesh

Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
Cosmopolitan Hospital
Trivandrum,Kerala,India.

Mobile-9447191205



-----Original Message-----
From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On
Behalf Of Chip Routt
Sent: 24 July 2006 22:45
To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
Subject: Re: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum


She has an associated both column displaced acetabular fracture.

An ilioinguinal surgical exposure allows excellent open reduction and
internal fixation for her particular pattern...unless I've missed some
details in the images as shown.

Locked pelvic reconstruction plates have essentially no indication in
routine acetabular/pelvic surgery. This is an expensive and un-needed
fad...the "bell-bottom pants of pelvic surgery". The locked implants control
where you are allowed (by implant design and contour) to insert a screw
rather than where you the surgeon choose to direct it based on structural
need and osseus anatomy.

Your patient's fracture pattern details do not warrant a posterior exposure
for successful operative management..you'll be sad with the result if you go
posteriorly.

Chip










>
> 55 yr old lady (cleaning lady at our hospital) hit by a car (merc C
class,no
> less !) 4 days ago. I think she has a comminuted floor of right acetabulum
> with a transverse # and involvement of both anterior and posterior
columns.
> Only other injury is a # of neck of scapula on the left side. I am
planning
> to operate on wednesday.After following all the discussions,I was thinking
> of a prone kocher-langenbck exposure ( have only done a few lateral ones
> before,but I can see the advantages), and use recon plates posteriorly. I
> will then have to do an anterior approach as well and fix the superior
ramus
> using plates as I have been unable to get any ramus screws. Is there any
> advantage in using locking recon plates as opposed to ordinary recon
plates
> (so that i dont have to use very long screws?)
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and any other options. Some more CT films are
> available and i will send them across as soon as possible.
>
> rajesh
>
> Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
> Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
> Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
> Cosmopolitan Hospital
> Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
>
> Mobile-9447191205
>
> --------------------------------------------
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corporate
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M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D.
Professor-Orthopedic Surgery
Harborview Medical Center
325 Ninth Avenue
Box 359798
Seattle, WA 98104-2499
phone 206-731-3658
FAX 206-731-3227
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mlroutt at u
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Jul 25, 2006, 6:53 AM

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Re: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum-more CT [In reply to] Can't Post

Ilioinguinal.




>
> some more CT pictures,
>
> Thanks very much
>
> rajesh
>
> Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
> Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
> Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
> Cosmopolitan Hospital
> Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
>
> Mobile-9447191205
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On
> Behalf Of Chip Routt
> Sent: 24 July 2006 22:45
> To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
> Subject: Re: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum
>
>
> She has an associated both column displaced acetabular fracture.
>
> An ilioinguinal surgical exposure allows excellent open reduction and
> internal fixation for her particular pattern...unless I've missed some
> details in the images as shown.
>
> Locked pelvic reconstruction plates have essentially no indication in
> routine acetabular/pelvic surgery. This is an expensive and un-needed
> fad...the "bell-bottom pants of pelvic surgery". The locked implants control
> where you are allowed (by implant design and contour) to insert a screw
> rather than where you the surgeon choose to direct it based on structural
> need and osseus anatomy.
>
> Your patient's fracture pattern details do not warrant a posterior exposure
> for successful operative management..you'll be sad with the result if you go
> posteriorly.
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> 55 yr old lady (cleaning lady at our hospital) hit by a car (merc C
> class,no
>> less !) 4 days ago. I think she has a comminuted floor of right acetabulum
>> with a transverse # and involvement of both anterior and posterior
> columns.
>> Only other injury is a # of neck of scapula on the left side. I am
> planning
>> to operate on wednesday.After following all the discussions,I was thinking
>> of a prone kocher-langenbck exposure ( have only done a few lateral ones
>> before,but I can see the advantages), and use recon plates posteriorly. I
>> will then have to do an anterior approach as well and fix the superior
> ramus
>> using plates as I have been unable to get any ramus screws. Is there any
>> advantage in using locking recon plates as opposed to ordinary recon
> plates
>> (so that i dont have to use very long screws?)
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions and any other options. Some more CT films are
>> available and i will send them across as soon as possible.
>>
>> rajesh
>>
>> Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
>> Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
>> Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
>> Cosmopolitan Hospital
>> Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
>>
>> Mobile-9447191205
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> My mailbox is spam-free with ChoiceMail, the leader in personal and
> corporate
>> anti-spam solutions. Download your free copy of ChoiceMail from
>> www.choicemailfree.com
>
> M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D.
> Professor-Orthopedic Surgery
> Harborview Medical Center
> 325 Ninth Avenue
> Box 359798
> Seattle, WA 98104-2499
> phone 206-731-3658
> FAX 206-731-3227
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M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D.
Professor-Orthopedic Surgery
Harborview Medical Center
325 Ninth Avenue
Box 359798
Seattle, WA 98104-2499
phone 206-731-3658
FAX 206-731-3227
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huseyind at baskent-ank
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Jul 26, 2006, 12:57 AM

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Re: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum-more CT [In reply to] Can't Post

Inlet 3D reconstruction reveals contralateral post column fracture . This
could be misleading but other CT scan pictures are not clear.

Inlet is attached

Hüseyin Demirors
Baskent University

- Original Message -----
From: "Rajesh" <rajesh84@asianetindia.com>
To: <ORT-L@www2.aaos.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum-more CT


>
> some more CT pictures,
>
> Thanks very much
>
> rajesh
>
> Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
> Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
> Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
> Cosmopolitan Hospital
> Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
>
> Mobile-9447191205
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On
> Behalf Of Chip Routt
> Sent: 24 July 2006 22:45
> To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
> Subject: Re: [ORT-L] fracture floor of acetabulum
>
>
> She has an associated both column displaced acetabular fracture.
>
> An ilioinguinal surgical exposure allows excellent open reduction and
> internal fixation for her particular pattern...unless I've missed some
> details in the images as shown.
>
> Locked pelvic reconstruction plates have essentially no indication in
> routine acetabular/pelvic surgery. This is an expensive and un-needed
> fad...the "bell-bottom pants of pelvic surgery". The locked implants
> control
> where you are allowed (by implant design and contour) to insert a screw
> rather than where you the surgeon choose to direct it based on structural
> need and osseus anatomy.
>
> Your patient's fracture pattern details do not warrant a posterior
> exposure
> for successful operative management..you'll be sad with the result if you
> go
> posteriorly.
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> 55 yr old lady (cleaning lady at our hospital) hit by a car (merc C
> class,no
>> less !) 4 days ago. I think she has a comminuted floor of right
>> acetabulum
>> with a transverse # and involvement of both anterior and posterior
> columns.
>> Only other injury is a # of neck of scapula on the left side. I am
> planning
>> to operate on wednesday.After following all the discussions,I was
>> thinking
>> of a prone kocher-langenbck exposure ( have only done a few lateral ones
>> before,but I can see the advantages), and use recon plates posteriorly. I
>> will then have to do an anterior approach as well and fix the superior
> ramus
>> using plates as I have been unable to get any ramus screws. Is there any
>> advantage in using locking recon plates as opposed to ordinary recon
> plates
>> (so that i dont have to use very long screws?)
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions and any other options. Some more CT films are
>> available and i will send them across as soon as possible.
>>
>> rajesh
>>
>> Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
>> Consultant Upper Limb Surgeon
>> Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint Replacement Surgery.
>> Cosmopolitan Hospital
>> Trivandrum,Kerala,India.
>>
>> Mobile-9447191205
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> My mailbox is spam-free with ChoiceMail, the leader in personal and
> corporate
>> anti-spam solutions. Download your free copy of ChoiceMail from
>> www.choicemailfree.com
>
> M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D.
> Professor-Orthopedic Surgery
> Harborview Medical Center
> 325 Ninth Avenue
> Box 359798
> Seattle, WA 98104-2499
> phone 206-731-3658
> FAX 206-731-3227
> --
>
>
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>
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>
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