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May 24, 2008, 8:42 AM
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The screws which progress from ilium thru sacrum and exit the contralateral ilium (if well located and appropriately sized) do not need a "nut" to maintain or fortify it...the same is true for screws used between the posterior iliac areas. You can use a "nut" if you choose to, but it's hard to understand why when you've just inserted a 170 mm length 7.3mm diameter screw that exits intact cortical bone...we used "nuts" in the late 80s and early 90s but I don't know why (other than we didn't know what we were doing). The symphysis is a normally flexible-mobile zone....when acutely injured and plated it requires several weeks to months of structural and relative stability while "healing"...the implant size, length, etc matter little...they need to fit and maintain the reduction while it heals...the symphyseal plate implants can be "tensioned" if contoured and then applied appropriately...the peripheral plate ends and screws should be oriented to resist distraction...the surgeon has numerous options for anterior ring fixation even for previously operated "salvage" instances. A "probably stronger" symphyseal plate typically means that the screws disengage (or break) or the screws shake around in the parasymphyseal bone instead of plate fatigue failure at 6-12 months...the area moves, so some style of implant fatigue is expected...maybe plate breaks, maybe screws disengage a bit, maybe screws break, maybe screws shake around in the bone among others. Chip > hello, > in terms of the trans-ilio-sacral-ilio screws, is there an option for a > nut/washer on the end of > the screw? especially in weak bone this could potentially help with fixation. > chip/bruce, any > experience/insight on this? in terms of symphysis fixation I have gone back on > one (mayber two!!) > patients with infections up front and with six screws in a 6 hole plate. the > far lateral screws > can be a challenge to remove so I now prefer a 4 hole plate. limited > experience but that is my > take on it. and I use the symphysis plate from the stryker system which is > probably stronger than > a recon plate. thanks for showing your case, lots of work. > dan > --- Bruce_Ziran@HMIS.ORG wrote: > >> Looks much better. Not surprised about the infection. >> >> I use 4.5 mm recon plates for anterior fixation.. Find it to be stronger >> and can bend in-plane enough to get the curve needed. I use a 6 hole which >> allows 3 screws on each side. I would still have fused the front with crest >> graft. But, i like your "X" method. Pretty slick >> >> I worry a little about so many transacral screws, since I beleive that >> space to be rather tight and tough to really know with just fluoro. Have >> you considered a CT to verify? >> The CT you have did not show a lot of graft in the NU site, did you open >> and graft that cleft? You may have but maybe artifact obscures. >> >> Overall, an admirable job with a horrible problem. >> >> Final question, did you summon any witch doctors, use any potions, or >> anything? >> >> Seriously though, looks great. >> >> Bruce H. Ziran, M.D. >> Director of Orthopaedic Trauma >> St. Elizabeth Health Center >> Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery >> Northeast Ohio Universities College of Medicine >> >> >> >> "Zamorano, David" >> <dzamoran@uci.edu >>> To >> Sent by: <ORT-L@www2.aaos.org> >> ORT-L-owner@www2. cc >> aaos.org >> Subject >> RE: [ORT-L] Pelvic malunion >> 05/23/2008 04:14 >> PM >> >> >> Please respond to >> ORT-L@www2.aaos.o >> rg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Drs. Ziran and Routt, >> >> Thanks for the advice on the pelvic malunion. Here is some follow up. >> 1. patient began to drain from left posterior wound. >> 2. removed hardware and performed multiple I and ds until wound looked >> clean. >> 3. IV abx during this time >> 4. Bladder rupture noted on HWR of anterior pelvic ring. Urology >> repaired and kept foley. No suprapubic catheter. >> 5. Once soft tissues looked healthy and CRP trended down, did osteotomy >> of sacrum and fixed with trans-sacral screws and tension band. >> 6. revised front and added ex-fix to supplement because patients bipolar >> disorder seemed to be more profound than I originally anticipated and I >> questioned his compliance. I thought the ex-fix might slow him down. >> >> Xrays attached >> >> I appreciate any constructive criticism you may have. >> >> dpz >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________ >> >> David P. Zamorano, MD >> Director, Orthopaedic Trauma Service >> UCI Medical Center >> (714) 456-7801 Office >> (714) 456-7547 Fax >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org] On >> Behalf Of Bruce_Ziran@HMIS.ORG >> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:03 AM >> To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org >> Subject: Re: [ORT-L] Pelvic malunion >> >> Tough break. I like your plan. Only thing I would add is to >> 1) rule out infection >> 2) graft posterior. I like tension band plates. They do very well. >> We are submitting our series currently >> 3) consider fusing symphisis as described by Matta's group. >> Intercalary crest graft after denuding symphysis. >> 4) pray, summon spirits, call a witch doctor. >> >> Bruce H. Ziran, M.D. >> Director of Orthopaedic Trauma >> St. Elizabeth Health Center >> Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery Northeast Ohio Universities >> College of Medicine >> >> >> >> >> "Zamorano, David" >> >> <dzamoran@uci.edu >> >>> >> To >> Sent by: <ORT-L@www2.aaos.org> >> >> ORT-L-owner@www2. >> cc >> aaos.org >> >> >> Subject >> [ORT-L] Pelvic malunion >> >> 04/15/2008 06:21 >> >> PM >> >> >> >> >> >> Please respond to >> >> ORT-L@www2.aaos.o >> >> rg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Looking for some advice. >> >> >> This a a 45 yo male who had an accident in Panama 3 weeks ago when he >> crashed into a tree while on a zip line. He underwernt 3 surgeries in >> Panama over a week period for failed fixation. He now presents to me >> with a malunion. His PMHx is significant for bipolar disorder and DVT. >> He has an IVC currently. He is neuro exam is normal. His posterior >> wounds are healing with minimal erythema. No active drainage. He had >> been on keflex since the surgery. >> >> >> His main complaint is pain. He has already lossed fixation anteriorly >> and is malreduced posteriorly also. My plan was to revise him next >> week. >> >> >> I was planning on going anterior and removing hardware then posterior >> and revising with trans-sacral iliosacral screws and possible tension >> band plate also. I would then flip again and reORIF his symphysis >> anteriorly. >> >> >> Appreciate anyones thoughts. >> >> >> dpz <<pelvis malunion.ppt>> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________ >> >> >> >> David P. Zamorano, MD >> Director, Orthopaedic Trauma Service >> UCI Medical Center >> (714) 456-7801 Office >> (714) 456-7547 Fax (See attached file: pelvis malunion.ppt) >> >> >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, including any attachments, is for >> the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >> and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >> please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the >> original message. >> (See attached file: pelvis malunion.ppt) >> >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message, including any attachments, is for >> the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >> distribution >> is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the >> sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. >> > === message truncated === > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D. Professor-Orthopedic Surgery Harborview Medical Center 325 Ninth Avenue Box 359798 Seattle, WA 98104-2499 phone 206-731-3658 FAX 206-731-3227 -- --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
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