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xaheer_iq at yahoo
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Apr 18, 2008, 1:09 PM

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i need your help
kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for

HI,

i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired thus are attached. i have been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8 weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for right leg due to a hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling any pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery at this time he is of the view that my bones are very weak therefore, he has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE D3 ADVANCE (calcium supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular bone into these.

it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to me now? as my right ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral neck are involved.

is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the right femoral neck up to the medial cortex?

thanking you in anticipation

REGARDS,


_________________________________________
Zaheer Iqbal Naru
B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
Northern Camps
Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
21 - Kashmir Road
Lahore, 54000
Pakistan
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frg at myfastmail
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Apr 18, 2008, 2:03 PM

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The less is the better. Do not touche


----- Original message -----
From: "Zaheer Iqbal Naru" <xaheer_iq@yahoo.com>
To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:09:35 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [ORT-L] Fwd: Polyostotic Fibrous Dysplasia: Zaheer

i need your help
kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for

HI,

i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired
thus are attached. i have been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8
weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for right leg due to a
hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling
any pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery
at this time he is of the view that my bones are very weak therefore, he
has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE D3 ADVANCE (calcium
supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the
right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular
bone into these.

it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to
me now? as my right ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral
neck are involved.

is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the
right femoral neck up to the medial cortex?

thanking you in anticipation

REGARDS,


_________________________________________
Zaheer Iqbal Naru
B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
Northern Camps
Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
21 - Kashmir Road
Lahore, 54000
Pakistan
Mobile 92 333 4969726
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Bruce_Ziran at HMIS
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Apr 21, 2008, 6:32 AM

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seems safe to NOT address the ilium, but I would address the femoral neck
sooner than later. Bed rest is reasonable until planned surgery , as your
doctor has done. His plan is a good one.

Bruce H. Ziran, M.D.
Director of Orthopaedic Trauma
St. Elizabeth Health Center
Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery
Northeast Ohio Universities College of Medicine



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----- Original message -----
From: "Zaheer Iqbal Naru" <xaheer_iq@yahoo.com>
To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:09:35 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [ORT-L] Fwd: Polyostotic Fibrous Dysplasia: Zaheer

i need your help
kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for

HI,

i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired
thus are attached. i have been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8
weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for right leg due to a
hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling
any pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery
at this time he is of the view that my bones are very weak therefore, he
has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE D3 ADVANCE (calcium
supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the
right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular
bone into these.

it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to
me now? as my right ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral
neck are involved.

is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the
right femoral neck up to the medial cortex?

thanking you in anticipation

REGARDS,


_________________________________________
Zaheer Iqbal Naru
B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
Northern Camps
Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
21 - Kashmir Road
Lahore, 54000
Pakistan
Mobile 92 333 4969726
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karine.vanscherpenzeel at charite
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Apr 21, 2008, 2:23 PM

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Dear Mr Naru,

if you do not have any complaints right now, our advice would be a
conservative one (no operation), with the medication you already
mentioned. We would also advise you to take Zometa, intravenous, once
every 4 weeks, during 6 months.
Wishing you all the best,

Karine van Scherpenzeel, Ingo Melcher and Hermann Bail
Campus Virchow Klinikum
Berlin


> i need your help
> kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for
>
> HI,
>
> i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired
thus are attached. i have been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8
weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for right leg due to a
hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling
any pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery
at
> this time he is of the view that my bones are very weak therefore, he
has
> put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE D3 ADVANCE (calcium
> supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the

> right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular
bone
> into these.
>
> it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to
me
> now? as my right ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral
neck
> are involved.
>
> is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the
right femoral neck up to the medial cortex?
>
> thanking you in anticipation
>
> REGARDS,
>
>
> _________________________________________
> Zaheer Iqbal Naru
> B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
> Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
> Northern Camps
> Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
> 3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
> 21 - Kashmir Road
> Lahore, 54000
> Pakistan
> Mobile 92 333 4969726
> _________________________________________
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com






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FCyran at mednet
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Apr 22, 2008, 3:51 PM

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I and my senior partner (J Eckardt) manage fibrous dysplasia by bonegrafting, and protective reinforcement (plates, rods, etc) until the new bone is healed. Ignore the iliac wing lesion for now. Bed rest until the femoral neck Fx is healed is a good idea. Since you're only 29, avoiding a hip replacement is a good idea too.

I would reccomend curetting out the lesion, and bone grafting it. Eckardt uses iliac crest bone graft, and supplements it with cancellous bone chips and whatever BMP they have around. I am working on publishing using Vitoss (tricalcium phosphate in a porous matrix)bone substitute with bone marrow aspirate. I have several patients with fibrous dysplasia treated in this fasion, and all are doing well.

Since the entire proximal femur is affected, the rod needs to be removed, prox femur/femoral neck need to be curetted out, via sub vastus approach. Lateral curetting entry portal into the femur can also be used to place the cephalo-medullary rod (IMHS (Smith and Nephew), or TFN (Synthes).

Enclosed is a radiograph of a 19 yo male with an ABC (aneurysmal bone cyst) before and after surg. He is now 2 years out, asymptomatic, runs etc. Sorry couldn't find any more recent films, other that these.

Francis Cyran, M.D.

Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Oncology

UCLA, Department of Orthopaedic Surgery

1250 16th St., Suite 745

Santa Monica, California, 90404

(310) 319-3800 (Office)

(310) 319-1240 (Fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On Behalf Of Zaheer Iqbal Naru
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:10 PM
To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
Subject: [ORT-L] Fwd: Polyostotic Fibrous Dysplasia: Zaheer



i need your help
kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for

HI,



i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired thus are attached. i have been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8 weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for right leg due to a hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling any pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery at this time he is of the view that my bones are very weak therefore, he has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE D3 ADVANCE (calcium supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular bone into these.

it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to me now? as my right ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral neck are involved.

is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the right femoral neck up to the medial cortex?

thanking you in anticipation

REGARDS,



_________________________________________
Zaheer Iqbal Naru
B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
Northern Camps
Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
21 - Kashmir Road
Lahore, 54000
Pakistan
Mobile 92 333 4969726
_________________________________________


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danschlatterer at yahoo
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hello,
I am interested in reading your report on vitoss and BMA. I have had two nonunions recently one in
a pilon fracture and another in a midshaft tibia in which vitoss alone was used. The BMA probably
is the difference in outcome. in the attached picture note in the mid portion a grainy substance.
this is the vitoss in the same consistency as when it was placed 4 months prior. it was easily
curetted out and replaced with iliac crest bone graft. of course this is just two cases and
without BMA. thanks
dan schlatterer

--- "Cyran, Francis M.D." <FCyran@mednet.ucla.edu> wrote:

> I and my senior partner (J Eckardt) manage fibrous dysplasia by bonegrafting, and protective
> reinforcement (plates, rods, etc) until the new bone is healed. Ignore the iliac wing lesion
> for now. Bed rest until the femoral neck Fx is healed is a good idea. Since you're only 29,
> avoiding a hip replacement is a good idea too.
>
> I would reccomend curetting out the lesion, and bone grafting it. Eckardt uses iliac crest bone
> graft, and supplements it with cancellous bone chips and whatever BMP they have around. I am
> working on publishing using Vitoss (tricalcium phosphate in a porous matrix)bone substitute with
> bone marrow aspirate. I have several patients with fibrous dysplasia treated in this fasion,
> and all are doing well.
>
> Since the entire proximal femur is affected, the rod needs to be removed, prox femur/femoral
> neck need to be curetted out, via sub vastus approach. Lateral curetting entry portal into the
> femur can also be used to place the cephalo-medullary rod (IMHS (Smith and Nephew), or TFN
> (Synthes).
>
> Enclosed is a radiograph of a 19 yo male with an ABC (aneurysmal bone cyst) before and after
> surg. He is now 2 years out, asymptomatic, runs etc. Sorry couldn't find any more recent
> films, other that these.
>
> Francis Cyran, M.D.
>
> Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Oncology
>
> UCLA, Department of Orthopaedic Surgery
>
> 1250 16th St., Suite 745
>
> Santa Monica, California, 90404
>
> (310) 319-3800 (Office)
>
> (310) 319-1240 (Fax)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On Behalf Of Zaheer Iqbal Naru
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:10 PM
> To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
> Subject: [ORT-L] Fwd: Polyostotic Fibrous Dysplasia: Zaheer
>
>
>
> i need your help
> kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for
>
> HI,
>
>
>
> i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired thus are attached. i have
> been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8 weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for
> right leg due to a hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling any
> pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery at this time he is of the
> view that my bones are very weak therefore, he has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE
> D3 ADVANCE (calcium supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the
> right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular bone into these.
>
> it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to me now? as my right
> ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral neck are involved.
>
> is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the right femoral neck up to
> the medial cortex?
>
> thanking you in anticipation
>
> REGARDS,
>
>
>
> _________________________________________
> Zaheer Iqbal Naru
> B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
> Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
> Northern Camps
> Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
> 3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
> 21 - Kashmir Road
> Lahore, 54000
> Pakistan
> Mobile 92 333 4969726
> _________________________________________
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
>
>
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Director, Orthopaedic Trauma
Atlanta Medical Center
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Atlanta, GA 30312
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I have not had to re-operate on any of my patients treated yet (approximately 50-60). I have been using it mostly in kids, and adults with cystic tumors (ABC, NOF,UBC, Fibrous dysplasia, etc). I'm waiting a few more months to get final 2 year post op follow ups on the remaining patients - nothing is published yet.
I haven't had to use it for a non-union. I think anything placed by the bone is more likely to fail without the proper biology.
I'm in agreement with you as to why it might not have worked - no BMA. I think that's why illiac crest tends to work - comes with it's own osteoblasts. I have gone back in on other lesions treated with allograft cancellous chips+DBM+BMP two years later, and it too also came out like it was just put in - not encouraging, as the X-rays looked like it was incorporated.
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hello,
I am interested in reading your report on vitoss and BMA. I have had two nonunions recently one in
a pilon fracture and another in a midshaft tibia in which vitoss alone was used. The BMA probably
is the difference in outcome. in the attached picture note in the mid portion a grainy substance.
this is the vitoss in the same consistency as when it was placed 4 months prior. it was easily
curetted out and replaced with iliac crest bone graft. of course this is just two cases and
without BMA. thanks
dan schlatterer

--- "Cyran, Francis M.D." <FCyran@mednet.ucla.edu> wrote:

> I and my senior partner (J Eckardt) manage fibrous dysplasia by bonegrafting, and protective
> reinforcement (plates, rods, etc) until the new bone is healed. Ignore the iliac wing lesion
> for now. Bed rest until the femoral neck Fx is healed is a good idea. Since you're only 29,
> avoiding a hip replacement is a good idea too.
>
> I would reccomend curetting out the lesion, and bone grafting it. Eckardt uses iliac crest bone
> graft, and supplements it with cancellous bone chips and whatever BMP they have around. I am
> working on publishing using Vitoss (tricalcium phosphate in a porous matrix)bone substitute with
> bone marrow aspirate. I have several patients with fibrous dysplasia treated in this fasion,
> and all are doing well.
>
> Since the entire proximal femur is affected, the rod needs to be removed, prox femur/femoral
> neck need to be curetted out, via sub vastus approach. Lateral curetting entry portal into the
> femur can also be used to place the cephalo-medullary rod (IMHS (Smith and Nephew), or TFN
> (Synthes).
>
> Enclosed is a radiograph of a 19 yo male with an ABC (aneurysmal bone cyst) before and after
> surg. He is now 2 years out, asymptomatic, runs etc. Sorry couldn't find any more recent
> films, other that these.
>
> Francis Cyran, M.D.
>
> Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Oncology
>
> UCLA, Department of Orthopaedic Surgery
>
> 1250 16th St., Suite 745
>
> Santa Monica, California, 90404
>
> (310) 319-3800 (Office)
>
> (310) 319-1240 (Fax)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org [mailto:ORT-L-owner@www2.aaos.org]On Behalf Of Zaheer Iqbal Naru
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:10 PM
> To: ORT-L@www2.aaos.org
> Subject: [ORT-L] Fwd: Polyostotic Fibrous Dysplasia: Zaheer
>
>
>
> i need your help
> kindly guide me at least if this is not the right place i am heading for
>
> HI,
>
>
>
> i have recently undergone a 3D reconstructive CT Scan. images acquired thus are attached. i have
> been advised bed rest for two months i.e., 8 weeks and allowed touch down weight bearing for
> right leg due to a hairline fracture in the right femoral shaft. moreover, i am not feeling any
> pain in any of my bones right now. my doctor is avoiding a surgery at this time he is of the
> view that my bones are very weak therefore, he has put me on FOSAMAX 70mb Weekly and OSTEOCARE
> D3 ADVANCE (calcium supplement). he is planning a surgery after two months to strengthen the
> right proximal femur and right femoral neck buy pinning right fibular bone into these.
>
> it seems that i am a polyostotic subject. what are the options left to me now? as my right
> ilium, socket of right femoral head and left femoral neck are involved.
>
> is it safe to be on bed rest as there is an incomplete fracture of the right femoral neck up to
> the medial cortex?
>
> thanking you in anticipation
>
> REGARDS,
>
>
>
> _________________________________________
> Zaheer Iqbal Naru
> B.E. (Mech), UET LHR
> Engineer (Projects) Grade - 2
> Northern Camps
> Sui Northern Gas Pipelines Limited
> 3rd Floor, Project Head Quarter, GAS HOUSE
> 21 - Kashmir Road
> Lahore, 54000
> Pakistan
> Mobile 92 333 4969726
> _________________________________________
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> IMPORTANT WARNING: This email (and any attachments) is only intended for the use of the person
> or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged and
> confidential. You, the recipient, are obligated to maintain it in a safe, secure and
> confidential manner. Unauthorized redisclosure or failure to maintain confidentiality may
> subject you to federal and state penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, please
> immediately notify us by return email, and delete this message from your computer.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>



Daniel Schlatterer, DO
Interim Program Director, Dept. of Orthopaedic Surgery
Director, Orthopaedic Trauma
Atlanta Medical Center
303 Parkway Dr. NE
Atlanta, GA 30312
404-265-1578


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